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		<title>By: malavika</title>
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		<dc:creator>malavika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rob, the female infanticide and wife sharing( well there are no more girls) and dowry deaths reflect our glorious and ancient religion which barbarians like thee won&#039;t understand. After kicking out the christians, we are going to bring back sati, the purdah and child marriage. If you don&#039;t like it, you are a racist hater. Thankyou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob, the female infanticide and wife sharing( well there are no more girls) and dowry deaths reflect our glorious and ancient religion which barbarians like thee won&#8217;t understand. After kicking out the christians, we are going to bring back sati, the purdah and child marriage. If you don&#8217;t like it, you are a racist hater. Thankyou.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - Its interesting you focus on this non kissing issue in your country, yet you fail to address the fact that:- Between 1991 and 2001, the number of girls per 1,000 boys aged six or younger in India decreased, from 945 to 927.
This Sex-selective abortion and infanticide practise  in India - is certainly going to cause major issues in the future of India. Obviously your outdated dowry system encourages this. 

Why do you blame the west for your country&#039;s ills when this outright relegation of women in india to 2nd class citizens is plain for the rest of the world to see!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; Its interesting you focus on this non kissing issue in your country, yet you fail to address the fact that:- Between 1991 and 2001, the number of girls per 1,000 boys aged six or younger in India decreased, from 945 to 927.<br />
This Sex-selective abortion and infanticide practise  in India &#8211; is certainly going to cause major issues in the future of India. Obviously your outdated dowry system encourages this. </p>
<p>Why do you blame the west for your country&#8217;s ills when this outright relegation of women in india to 2nd class citizens is plain for the rest of the world to see!</p>
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		<title>By: Sooraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sooraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amit - yeah, the differences and degrees of social acceptance certainly vary in different cities and villages of India as you point out. That is surprising and not-so at the same time because most of the social aspects of living in different parts of India are similar with some minor differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amit &#8211; yeah, the differences and degrees of social acceptance certainly vary in different cities and villages of India as you point out. That is surprising and not-so at the same time because most of the social aspects of living in different parts of India are similar with some minor differences.</p>
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		<title>By: Sooraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sooraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jen - Your experiences in Chennai colleges of girls secretly enjoying discos and sex is very true; only the situation has changed slightly in that more of them are becoming more open about it now. Though of course there&#039;s still a high degree of secrecy which is not surprising considering Indian society.

But people do talk about social issues to a great extent in India. While public display of affection is discouraged (thankfully!), there is a great amount of daily discussion on social and political issues. Kushboo was caught on the wrong foot because she made one/two allegations that certain people did not take well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen &#8211; Your experiences in Chennai colleges of girls secretly enjoying discos and sex is very true; only the situation has changed slightly in that more of them are becoming more open about it now. Though of course there&#8217;s still a high degree of secrecy which is not surprising considering Indian society.</p>
<p>But people do talk about social issues to a great extent in India. While public display of affection is discouraged (thankfully!), there is a great amount of daily discussion on social and political issues. Kushboo was caught on the wrong foot because she made one/two allegations that certain people did not take well.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All ( specially Jen),

Its nice to hear that after spending some time in south india, you do have some insight of indian cultural aspect. But, the issue of india is so diverse that even as an indian we dont understand india that easily !! If you ever visit West India ( bombay), you wll find that hugging, quick smooching, or even a glimpse of passionate kissing(sometime)here and there. Now, Bombay society is also very conservative society, but what is relevant in bombay is not relavent in Chennai or someplace. At the same time, even in the Capital of India, New Delhi, you dont find couples kissing in full view of public, though the society is more open vis a vis bombay or chennai or calcutta.
We have to understand the social level of acceptance, social upbringing, education and childhood exposure, all goes hand in hand to make a man what he is ! Now in india, a person from western europe or US shouldnot expect to find the same level of response from public as compared to US. A neo generation (like me ) person, can accept the fact that i want to kiss my girlfriend right now, wherever i am , but my previous generation will never accept the same !! And i feel that loving someone doesnt entail you to kiss, hold butt, or do something in full view of someone who might not like the whole idea ! I am not avert to the idea, but what a guy can do in Dallas TX, cant do in New Delhi !!! and at the same time the type of human cooperation and gratitude he will get in New delhi is unheard of in Dallas ! And we cant equate or put it in the same palate !! I have seen people making love in cars in public places in western europe, where the entire  population is 1/10 of India, where people have liberties and other resources to think of, unlike India where a human being is governed to an extent with social ethos and do&#039;s and dont&#039;s. There are positive sides, and a negative side as well. Its more like two side of a same coin....please dont equate or compare....no one cant i believe..!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All ( specially Jen),</p>
<p>Its nice to hear that after spending some time in south india, you do have some insight of indian cultural aspect. But, the issue of india is so diverse that even as an indian we dont understand india that easily !! If you ever visit West India ( bombay), you wll find that hugging, quick smooching, or even a glimpse of passionate kissing(sometime)here and there. Now, Bombay society is also very conservative society, but what is relevant in bombay is not relavent in Chennai or someplace. At the same time, even in the Capital of India, New Delhi, you dont find couples kissing in full view of public, though the society is more open vis a vis bombay or chennai or calcutta.<br />
We have to understand the social level of acceptance, social upbringing, education and childhood exposure, all goes hand in hand to make a man what he is ! Now in india, a person from western europe or US shouldnot expect to find the same level of response from public as compared to US. A neo generation (like me ) person, can accept the fact that i want to kiss my girlfriend right now, wherever i am , but my previous generation will never accept the same !! And i feel that loving someone doesnt entail you to kiss, hold butt, or do something in full view of someone who might not like the whole idea ! I am not avert to the idea, but what a guy can do in Dallas TX, cant do in New Delhi !!! and at the same time the type of human cooperation and gratitude he will get in New delhi is unheard of in Dallas ! And we cant equate or put it in the same palate !! I have seen people making love in cars in public places in western europe, where the entire  population is 1/10 of India, where people have liberties and other resources to think of, unlike India where a human being is governed to an extent with social ethos and do&#8217;s and dont&#8217;s. There are positive sides, and a negative side as well. Its more like two side of a same coin&#8230;.please dont equate or compare&#8230;.no one cant i believe..!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All
I am Jennifer. I am an American who had lived in Chennai for two years about 5 years ago. I have some comments to share. REcently a famous actress in Tamil Nadu (Kushboo) was forced into silence after making remarks about premarital sex. For more on that see..
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=82756&amp;pn=1
THere is also an interesting blog.
http://nimbupani.com/2005/10/01/indian_morality.php

I have to admit as an American it took me time to understand the restriction of public affection between females and males. I had excepted this before leaving India and do to this day. I think it is a good rule in the sense once you let the cat out of the bag people can take it to the extreme (like in US...) ANyhow It is good that people talk about these things.

One thing I would like to say is that I think people are in such an uproar about the Kushboo thing, which in turn initiated the &#039;morality police&#039; in Chennai, simply because they are afraid to face the facts.  I am not saying that certian behaviors are rampant (In Chennai) but as a college student (the only American among only Chennaites and few out of staters), I heard the stories of girls leaving the hostel, going to discos, having sex (fear of pregnancy), and high paid call girls in inner city colleges. It happens, people appear afraid to accept it. WIll they accept it only once it really becomes a problem? Does repressing the people to extreme measures (no wearing of western clothes at college, sitting under trees in public with opposite sex, etc) really force people who are attracted to each other away? Exactly the opposite! (Mostly) THe more force you have against something, the more people want to try it and the more they become &#039;actors.&#039;

I think a healthy dialogue is ready in 2006 for Chennaiites and Tamilians all over. Talk, yes people hesitate, feel embarassed, get upset, even angry, but without dialogue how will you know what is really happening and a really good way of keeping on the up and up in your cultural sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All<br />
I am Jennifer. I am an American who had lived in Chennai for two years about 5 years ago. I have some comments to share. REcently a famous actress in Tamil Nadu (Kushboo) was forced into silence after making remarks about premarital sex. For more on that see..<br />
<a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=82756&amp;pn=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=82756&amp;pn=1</a><br />
THere is also an interesting blog.<br />
<a href="http://nimbupani.com/2005/10/01/indian_morality.php" rel="nofollow">http://nimbupani.com/2005/10/01/indian_morality.php</a></p>
<p>I have to admit as an American it took me time to understand the restriction of public affection between females and males. I had excepted this before leaving India and do to this day. I think it is a good rule in the sense once you let the cat out of the bag people can take it to the extreme (like in US&#8230;) ANyhow It is good that people talk about these things.</p>
<p>One thing I would like to say is that I think people are in such an uproar about the Kushboo thing, which in turn initiated the &#8216;morality police&#8217; in Chennai, simply because they are afraid to face the facts.  I am not saying that certian behaviors are rampant (In Chennai) but as a college student (the only American among only Chennaites and few out of staters), I heard the stories of girls leaving the hostel, going to discos, having sex (fear of pregnancy), and high paid call girls in inner city colleges. It happens, people appear afraid to accept it. WIll they accept it only once it really becomes a problem? Does repressing the people to extreme measures (no wearing of western clothes at college, sitting under trees in public with opposite sex, etc) really force people who are attracted to each other away? Exactly the opposite! (Mostly) THe more force you have against something, the more people want to try it and the more they become &#8216;actors.&#8217;</p>
<p>I think a healthy dialogue is ready in 2006 for Chennaiites and Tamilians all over. Talk, yes people hesitate, feel embarassed, get upset, even angry, but without dialogue how will you know what is really happening and a really good way of keeping on the up and up in your cultural sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Sooraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sooraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

Thanks for dropping by and for the clarification, though I will leave it for others to interpret from your words. But you certainly have a good word for Indians, and more so for the women!

Sexual repression is indeed a sad thing, and while I don&#039;t blame conservative people, I think that conservative people do not have any right to interfere in other people&#039;s matters - I&#039;m very sorry, but that is what happens very often in America.

And Hindus used to be very open about sex - if you went to any ancient Hindu temple, you would see abundant sexual pictorization, and it was a Hindu scholar who wrote the Kamasutra. But the decline in sexual openness of the Hindus/Indians is a mystery to me.

And if you didn&#039;t know, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indiblog.com/85/the-third-gender-indias-favorite-hijras/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;transgendered people&lt;/a&gt; have a very long history in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping by and for the clarification, though I will leave it for others to interpret from your words. But you certainly have a good word for Indians, and more so for the women!</p>
<p>Sexual repression is indeed a sad thing, and while I don&#8217;t blame conservative people, I think that conservative people do not have any right to interfere in other people&#8217;s matters &#8211; I&#8217;m very sorry, but that is what happens very often in America.</p>
<p>And Hindus used to be very open about sex &#8211; if you went to any ancient Hindu temple, you would see abundant sexual pictorization, and it was a Hindu scholar who wrote the Kamasutra. But the decline in sexual openness of the Hindus/Indians is a mystery to me.</p>
<p>And if you didn&#8217;t know, <a href="http://www.indiblog.com/85/the-third-gender-indias-favorite-hijras/" rel="nofollow">transgendered people</a> have a very long history in India.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gudeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Gudeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The line you quoted from me was taken out of context. I think there is much to admire about the way Indians do things. That line was not criticizing Indians, it was criticizing the Westerners who worry about sexual repression.

There are people in America who blame conservative morality and &quot;sexual repression&quot; in America for all kinds of problems, but they don&#039;t care about the conservative morality of other countries that are more conservative. My comment was just to point out this double standard.

These people think that when Hindus or Muslims or Budhists are morally conservative, then that&#039;s just fine, but when Christians are morally conservative then it causes divorces and rapes and murders and all sort of bad things. It is evidence that these people don&#039;t really blame conservative morality, they just hate Christians.

The sad thing is that this strategy for attacking Christians is so big now that it will probably spill over into India and change your culture as well. I&#039;m sorry about that.

And as to that guy who compared Indian women to camels, he has probably never seen an Indian woman. Most of the Indian women I know are really cute. And all women are beautiful when they wear the traditional Indian dresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line you quoted from me was taken out of context. I think there is much to admire about the way Indians do things. That line was not criticizing Indians, it was criticizing the Westerners who worry about sexual repression.</p>
<p>There are people in America who blame conservative morality and &#8220;sexual repression&#8221; in America for all kinds of problems, but they don&#8217;t care about the conservative morality of other countries that are more conservative. My comment was just to point out this double standard.</p>
<p>These people think that when Hindus or Muslims or Budhists are morally conservative, then that&#8217;s just fine, but when Christians are morally conservative then it causes divorces and rapes and murders and all sort of bad things. It is evidence that these people don&#8217;t really blame conservative morality, they just hate Christians.</p>
<p>The sad thing is that this strategy for attacking Christians is so big now that it will probably spill over into India and change your culture as well. I&#8217;m sorry about that.</p>
<p>And as to that guy who compared Indian women to camels, he has probably never seen an Indian woman. Most of the Indian women I know are really cute. And all women are beautiful when they wear the traditional Indian dresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Sooraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sooraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amit,

Thanks for taking time to comment and for the encouraging words!

Do drop by again.

Jai Hind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amit,</p>
<p>Thanks for taking time to comment and for the encouraging words!</p>
<p>Do drop by again.</p>
<p>Jai Hind!</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Excellent remarks dude....carry on...these hypocrites of the west tends to think India and Indians as looser...wheras after living abroad for so many years i am damn sure that actually the western so called Yuppies are the one who are actually the greatest loosers of all.....They dont even mind there MOTHER getting screwed by other men....they called it liberation...ha ha ha ..!!LONG LIVE INDIA......We love you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Excellent remarks dude&#8230;.carry on&#8230;these hypocrites of the west tends to think India and Indians as looser&#8230;wheras after living abroad for so many years i am damn sure that actually the western so called Yuppies are the one who are actually the greatest loosers of all&#8230;..They dont even mind there MOTHER getting screwed by other men&#8230;.they called it liberation&#8230;ha ha ha ..!!LONG LIVE INDIA&#8230;&#8230;We love you</p>
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