Only Christianity can have Devil worship, logically


Christian churches and missionaries have perpetually recognized Hinduism as a huge threat and have therefore not lost any chance through the centuries in maligning it by terming it as devil worship. Though this is not as common today as before, I was reminded of it when the Russian Orthodox Church resorted this week to slandering ISKCON to prevent them from building a temple in Moscow, on land donated by the Mayor in return for demolishing their previous structure.

This has been going on for sometime now and the Church is at their wit’s end, which is evident in their serious slander of calling ISKCON devil worship.

Now, it is well known that in Christianity there is Good and there is Evil - there is God the Father, and there is Satan the Devil. Christians normally worship God, but there are also Satanists who worship the Devil. These Satanists are denied any privilege in Christianity, which is quite sad because, though He be evil, Christianity obviously has the god called Satan. So ostracizing the followers of a god of their own religion is inherent to Christianity.

It is well known that Christianity has a history of maligning its competitors and contemporaries, beginning with segregating a class of people within itself, as seen above. Therefore, by repeating a falsity ad nauseam, a well known strategy for fighting losing battles, it is trying to obscure the truth.

Now, we have established that Christianity has a component called Evil, and a god presiding over that dominion, Satan. Logically, therefore, Christianity and good Christians are fully capable of “Devil Worship”.

Coming to Hinduism, there is Brahman and nothing else. The Upanishads constantly reinforce that there is only One (which is Brahman) and no other. It is the same Brahman that pervades everything. The intelligent know it, the ignorant do not. The demarcation in Hinduism is between the “knowledgeable” and the “ignoramus”.

There is no Devil in Hinduism, for if there were a Devil, even that would be Brahman according to the Vedas and Upanishads. Evil in Hinduism is defined as the absence of knowledge about Brahman, and evil deeds are born of ignorance. Hinduism tells us that by imparting knowledge of Brahman to the ignorant, evil may be conquered.

Therefore, according to Hinduism, evil is the absence of knowledge; in other words, evil and ignorance are synonymous.

Now, some of you may counter this by bringing up the question of Rakshasas and Asuras in Hindu history. Rakshasas were nothing but cannibals, and men feared them on this count.

Asuras are a different story. These are demigods, just like the Devas. While the Devas did good deeds, the Asuras usually committed villainous acts, or evil acts born of ignorance. For example, in the story of Mahabali, Vishnu appears as Vamana rishi and asks Bali for three feet of land. When Vamana scales the entire earth and the heaven on his first two feet, Bali realizes the greatness of the person before him and is cured of all ignorance. Having attained knowledge, Bali surrenders to Vamana and offers his own head for His final foot.

Having established that there is no such thing as Evil or the Devil in Hinduism, how can there by “devil worship”?

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Hi !

That was an interesting post.

Your blog lead me to think of India and India’s image in the world arena.

Leftists and their cohorts seem to be attacking and maligning Indians regularly. they want us look like a bride burning civilization

To counter this, do Indians lack organizations that promote India in the International arena, that boost our public image ?

India, a multicultural society, contributed immensely to Society (say our Dharma), Knowledge (right from Ship Building, Sashtras to Mathematics, Avaita), and political science (Arthashashtra for e.g.), medicine (ayurveda) over 2 millennium

However, thanks to the invasions, colonial legacy and partially our own disunity, Indians were stuck with a “..curry and snake charmers image ..” for a 100 years. Even now, we seemed to have shaken that thanks to Info Tech and IT pros.

Be it politics or social issues, Why do Indians whip ourselves in public ? Look at the Ramdev Issue. We don’t need Witzels and outsiders to smear us

Are we turning into a self hating civilization or is our media Left and anti Indian ?

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What is happening to the Kanchi Acharya ?

Gudia, a Muslim girl and Ramdev ji, a Hindu male !!

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Vinayak

What’s the ruckus yaar! I mean from where do you get such absurd ideas and who are you to demean Christians? And if Hinduism is on a high-speed growth across the world then why is it that the Sangh Parivar leaders are always harping on the threat to Hinduism in India from Christians and exhorting the faithful (read high castes) to fight the threat? Well, the truth is that they don’t have any real issues at hand. Plain rhetoric and emotive issues are their cannon fodder. There are millions of dalits and tribals who are wallowing in poverty and nothing has been done to improve their plight. You talk of the absence of knowledge and its likening to evil. What’s the evil if you a slay a couple of Dalits in UP for having skinned a dead cow? Are human lives more important than animals?

Thank you, S!

Hi Defender - Perhaps you didn’t read the beginning of the article, but the absurd slandering always arises from the side with the Cross. I’m actually the defender!

Coming to your point of killing Dalits - I never said that all Hindus are saints. To me all lives are equally important - animal or human. To you it could be different.

Hi S,
If you are so concerned about human lives then its better to get down to reality. Try going to India’s remotest villages and do some social work for a change rather than hurling baseless allegations against Christians and the Cross.

Defender - you’ve got the whole issue topsy-turvy. It is the Christians who are “hurling baseless allegations” against Hinduism and not the other way.

I have only logically shown that Devil worship is not at all possible in Hinduism, therefore the Church’s allegations do not hold.

Whereas, there is the theoretical and practical possibility in Christianity, there are many Satanists out there! There is no need for me to say that Christianity has Devil Worship, for if you go out in the world and see, there are people who worship Jesus Christ, as well as those who worship Satan - what more evidence do you want?

Whatever maybe written in our (Hindu) texts. It has never condemned another religion or another God or any way of life.

Hinduism is such a great religion that it has something for everybody from all walks of life and all states of mind and devotion and even lack of devotion.

It is so vast that nobody can really get to the depths of everything. No other religion (I feel) has so much to it — Science, Rituals, Astrology, Maths, Medicine, Exercise, Art, Superstition, Sex, Love, Epics, Warfare, etc. etc…Anything…Pick any topic and you will find that Hinduism has talked about it ages before any other religion.

People see in it a reflection of their own mind and soul and more importantly on that which they want to see.

Hi Sabarish - Well said, although they sound a bit too Hindu nationalistic…but then, well…

[quote]Defender, on January 16th, 2006 at 12:20 pm, said:

Hi S,
If you are so concerned about human lives then its better to get down to reality. Try going to India?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢s remotest villages and do some social work for a change rather than hurling baseless allegations against Christians and the Cross[/quote]

Perhaps, Defender, you should take a closer look at Hindus and at Christians. Firstly, there are many Hindu organizations that do social work. It is called “seva” or selfless service. Secondly, and in contrast, any social work done by Christians is done with a hidden agenda, mainly to gain converts. Much subterfuge and many tricks are used to rob the poor of their cultural heritage whilst giving them false promises of what “miracles” the Christian church can perform for them.
Thirdly, what is the true legacy of Christian missionaries?
Look to exploitation in Africa and the genocide of aboriginal peoples in Polynesia, North and South America.

Defender: Why don’t YOU go to latin-america and Africa and help the millions of christian children starving to death, instead of telling HIV patients not to wear condoms (I’m waiting for the statement from the Catholic church with a lot of interest)? It seems christianity has wrought poverty and misery wherever it has went. Including India. The british Christians have turned the wealthiest country in the world, where everyone (yes, including dalits) were prosperous, into one of the poorest. Oh, and don’t even get me started on the heartless missionary organisations that ask tsunami victims to convert before they can recieve aid. This seems to be a general trend with Christian “aid organisations”. Don’t you find it strange that most of the Christian “charities”, even in Africa, work in places where there is a substantial non-christian population, and are conspicuosly absent in Christian countries? Most of that money never goes to actually helping people. As for Dalits and “Tribals”, they seem to be more religious and god-loving than any Brahmin (many of whom are starving in temples which recieve lots of money, due to the “nationalisation” of temples) or Bania. I just hope all this crap the missionaries spread about Dalits don’t affect them. And with the kind of caste-segregation and discrimination that happens in Indian churches, Dalits these days are more likely to be mingling with others in temples rather than churches. Christians are only using Dalits as tools, for propaganda so that they can get more money, which they’ll use to convert non-Dalits and a lot of non-”Tribals”.(My brother has a couple of friends who converted because the missionaries offered to pay their college fees, but later defaulted on the payments anyway)

I am very Happy to see such kind of website regarding caring for india and Hindu religion. This is really a very good site. I am proud to be an Indian & on top of that HINDU.

Hidus should respect their religion and come together to spread this mighty religion over the world. We must save Poor Indians & Poor accross the world from the clutches of Cristainity and dubbies Fathers & sisters.

We must unit to save our religion. Let’s come together with this media & show the power of Hinduism.

Hi!

You present a pretty interesting argument on this page. I don’t agree with it completely, because Hinduism is really a very varied collection of beliefs and not all Hindus understand that there is only one Brahman. That is fine, because if all Hindus were required to believe in Brahman, Hinduism would no longer be a religion that permits individuality and would lose its advantage over Christianity and Islam. Traditional lore depicts all elements of Hinduism as having the capacity for both good and evil. Thus although Ravana was Ram’s adversary, he is a great king and tapasvi with many good qualities according to Valmiki. So I think you are right in saying that there is no purely evil entity analogous to Satan in Hinduism, and thus Hindus are not devil worshippers.

On a slightly different note, although the person called Defender did so derisively and is attempting to paint it as a caste issue, I think there is some truth in his statement that Hindus are not doing enough for the upliftment of fellow Hindus. We should be doing MUCH more. There are hardly any free schools for the poor being run by Hindus. Although Christian and Muslim organizations usually have the ulterior motive of conversion, they have their free Madrassas and free evangelical schools.

Blaming Muslims and Christians is futile. The only way to stem the disruptive social engineering of mass conversions is to build Hindu institutions such as schools and hospitals. This is as important as building religious institutions. Christian and Muslim missionaries have recognized this long ago and are striving to establish schools, madrassas and hospitals in every village and locality in our country. Large areas throughout the northeast and the South are already completely converted; if Hindus don’t wake up and start doing the same, there won’t be anything called Hinduism left in another 30 years.

You said “Christians normally worship God, but there are also Satanists who worship the Devil. Christianity obviously has the god called Satan.”
I don’t know where did you get this idea from.
Christian believe only one God who created this world and loves his people. And he is only one mediator between men and Him. God is the Creator. He is the only one who can save the people from the sins. So all the people belong to him. Also He is impartial one. Therefore God cannot admit any vice and
have relationship with evil. So there is no way that Christians accept and worship the Satan.
A lot of corrupt people in this world made their idol to avoid God’s final judgment.

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