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This is a guest column written by “amolagirhe”
Medical students were protesting against the reservations at Mumbai. They did not have any weapons. It was going on very peacefully. Suddenly, police arrived and asked the students to leave. Students peacefully answered that they want to talk to Governor. The intention was to send the message to [very busy] Prime Minister. I will be surprised if Mr. Prime Minister is aware of this RESERVATION CLAUSE?
Our highly efficient Government is about to introduce the reservations in our sectors. They think that they can win people’s heart by dividing them on basis of CASTE. Returning to the scene, students were constantly asking Police to please look once at their plea. As all of us know that our Police is very active and fast, they started beating up the innocent students. They did not even make the difference between boys and girls. Even girls were brutally beaten by Police.
Students were showing the banners of “Don’t divide us on basis of caste, we are together!â€. But, Police executed lathicharge as if they were students were street dogs. While talking to media, students screamed, “Are we criminals? Did we kill anybody? Did we have any weapons with us?â€. Now the interesting point to be observed is so many political parties did Andolans on the same street in the past, but our sincere Policeman did not raise the lathi even once on them.
We can see the new face of Police on any of the news channels. We have Abu Salem enjoying his imprisonment. No Policeman even dare to touch him. But these brave officers can raise the lathi on doctors. If somebody is ill in one of these Policeman’s family, then the same doctors will operate on them. Isn’t it? Will these officers then dare to beat up the doctors or beg for his family member’s life?
Government should seriously give a thought to the reservations. Every job needs basic skillset to perform it. To learn the skill, one has to be capable. If one’s mental aptitude is not up to the mark, or he cant understand human’s body, how is he going to treat a patient? Will these politicians, who are raising the voice for reservations, be ready to get operated by these under qualified doctors? Definitely no!!
The only solution to this is:
Allow the reservations, but one has to score marks more than the marks at which the admission is closing. The advantage here is if two people has same marks, then the one who belongs to OBCs will get the admission under the reservation. This way, we can bring up qualified and capable OBCs, who can become doctors or engineers.
Government should give stress on how quality primary education should be given to OBCs. God has given same brains to everybody. Its upto us who can make it utilized.
It’s the time when we as a responsible citizens of INDIA should express our views. Its now the time, when we should take the responsibility of changing INDIA. If it doesn’t happen now, it wont happen ever. Our next generation will be raised in the darkness of CASTE and RELIGION. Do you really want it to happen? Then join the force and raise your voice against the reservations!!!
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Tamil Anbarasu said…
I need to just laugh it off by the half-baked knowledge of Karan Thapar who has just an acid sharp tounge but lacking sharp brain while he interviewed the Minister Arjun Singh.
Mr.Arjun Singh could have well managed to answer all his weak questions but unfortunately many north Indian’s mindset is deeply immeresed in the false-believes of Hinduism.
Please come to tamil nadu the land for social justice. Here the SC’s STs and OBCs score over 90% and the cut-off mark for even Scheduled caste is over 96% for medical seats.
The SC, ST and OBCs get the state ranks and make excellent contribution in all spheres of life. Just to name a few:
The great Music dircetor the Mastero is from a Scheduled caste family. The so called Brahmins who have been family practicing in music had utterly failed to overcome this genius(Illayaraja) and A.R Rahuman ( born in an OBC and embraced Islam is also a great Music director.
I am just quoting the “Music Field” that has been completely dominated by Brahmins in tamil nadu could do nothing ?. Even M.S Subbulakshmi the Bharatha Ratna Awardee(Think so) was not a brahmin by birth but an OBC.
So It is very clear that people from all starta or castes have intelligence.
Karan Thappar was arrogant enough to mention that SC,ST and OBCs are unfit to compete only shows how facist mindset he has hailed from.
Unfortunately, his parents brought him up like a caste fanatics than a normal human being.
Any one who opposes the social justice is nothing but a person born with caste-fanaticism and mean-minded soul that has immense facism.
Let India Learn from Tamils the place quality, social justice and technology thrives.
Let North Indians get rid of nonsense false believes and follow the foot steps of tamilnadu leaders.
“It is very crystal clear to me that Karan questions are Half-baked†one. For any issues one needs to see the root cause. I don’t think the caste-fanatics including Karan has that insight. It seems like if you ask Karan what is a tree?, he would say “Leaves and Leavesâ€â€¦But I call a tree is composed of root ,trunk, branches ,leaves, flowers/fruits etc. Common simple logic dude!!!
Let me make sure you and Karan understand it clearly. Look at the root cause for the economical, social backwardness of SC,ST and OBCs. Just the fascist rules of Hinduism, Please go and update your knowledge on the ugly side of Hinduism that suppressed its own people by segregating them as untouchables. These same mass was forcibly treated like slaves and asked them to do only low level jobs( Cleaning toilets , washing cloths ..Etc). While your fore-fathers of your clan enjoyed all benefits of Hinduism and had an 100% reservation in Guru-kula system( Only Brahmins and Kshatriyas were allowed and taught in guru-kul in olden days and considered even sin by allowing the SC,ST and OBCs in the mainstream- Please read manusmiriti and Bhagavad-Gita – they astoundingly says the untouchables be denied of these).
So, who are caste-fanatics is a visible answer. The clan/group that enjoyed 100% reservation by not allowing major section of the mass to compete against the high-caste Hindus. Your forefathers lacked vision in justice and just grabbed and looted and misused the Guru-kul system.
I understand that you do not have much idea about south Indian’s socio-political scenario and hence queried me. That is the state of many people like you. In North India only people from High-caste keep occupying the well-paid job while in south India due to the revolutionary Dravidian parties’ principles the equation got changed even well before 1960’s. Unfortunately North Indians think their country starts from Delhi and ends at Bombay(laughs-out-of-loud). My sincere advise is please widen your knowledge by reading various dynamics of changes across the country.
Nice question: I really pat on your shoulder for asking this one. Because this is the simplest questions of all that one you have. Those who score high marks are now from better-to-do families(economically) and settled in cities and towns. Due to partial annihilation of castes in Tamil nadu and economic growth of the families, the SC,ST,OBC kids could score 90% and over. How they got it ?…because of reservation system and job opportunities by the Dravidian parties. Also keep in mind , the first flag against false believes of Hinduism started here and people know what the meaning of religion and caste is and how it degrades the social life. But no great leaders, Other than Dr.B.R.Ambedkar, tried the test in Northern part of India and hence northern part of India is just pushed to more backward as compared to southern part( Please look at the IT engineers …mostly from Southern part of India). My sincere advice is let the Northern part of India follow the foot steps of Southern part for the better improvements and standards in the future. Otherwise , the mean minded religious fanatics will misuse the caste and religion for their benefits( While the northerner’s were spending their time to demolish the others worship places…the southerners were out to demolish the false believes of Hinduism and the castes). Now coming back to your question on why they need reservation when they score 90% and over it is simple dear, the bar has been raised; the forward caste /Other caste need to score 99% ; The OBCs score 98% and the SC/STs score 96% and the gap is thinning down( the day will be soon in South that no reservation would be required) But on an another hand due to backward mindset of caste –fanatics still there are atrocities against these common people …and the judgment day will be in couple of decades for sure in Tamil nadu.
I have explained why it was a facist mindset( No giving their rights –please do refer it)
How can I argue with a mindset that calls Nathu-ram godse a patriot? Thats what may Forward caste people thinks( Very sick minded people only can so; How do you want me to call them?…Angles or facists)
tamil anbarasu said…
Vanakam,
I could not get a fitting reply for all my questions and you were very elusive on the part of injustice meted out to SC/ST/OBC’s.
I put forth very strong points with an expectation that you have an answer for that and you cleverly sidelined it as my assumptions.
Well that is the sort of cheap tactics people use either to ignore to answer or categorizing it as assumptions.
I need to appreciate you on one thing that you don’t see anything against a particular caste.
Keep up the thought.
Reservation is just the justice to people who were robbed of their basic needs and rights and it is the just their right. Unfortunately someone who has large heartedness need to understand the basic of “Justice”.
Hope there would be leader like we had in our place and situations change in favour of underprivileged.
Vazhga India
Tamil Anbarasu
Tamil Anbarasu said…
I don’t have an emoticon to express how much I enjoyed your comments.
- You admit that Individual rights are foremost importance as why you being punished for all ill-doings of castesim
- In that same line, why not think that how many SC/ST/OBC individuals were punished for centuries with social abuses. And please keep in mind that you are part and parcel of a system where individual rights are also taken into account. If individual benefits are more weighted against the majority , it sounds to me “Selfishâ€.
- You are ignorant of caste divides: Well you were born in a group which has had only benefits due to casteism where as I was born in a caste with only abuses were thrown since from childhood by the caste-hindus. So the one who was ill-treated have the pain and obliviously you could not feel that for having comfortably-diametrically placed in the social circle.
- If you did not have the prejudices then you be proud of it but the system had it and it needs to correct itself coming to an equilibrium position( simple science!!!)
- Justice to one need not be by means of injustice to another: Well said, then you should disagree with Bhagavad-Gita and other Vedas for giving injustice to under privileged sections of the society as these books portrayed and supported abuses. Can you do that? If not why?
- Reservation is a finite process and it needs to end as soon as the justice is delivered. How can we get rid of centuries old injustice in few years?
- Hypocrite(lol) : If your brother gets hospitalized and he was given a care , Will you be jealous and abuse him because he is given care by the doctors?. That is the situation that you are in. Then I will leave it to your conscience that who is an hypocrite.
Note: I start liking your style of expression although differ in the content
May 24, 2006 12:38 AM
anand says:In tamilnadu, if SC, ST, and OBC are scoring more than 90% , why at all reservation is required in tamilnadu, and the reservation can be removed, so that they can have self-esteem and self-respect that they are not inferior to other so called forward community.
The fact is that tamil regional dravidian political leaders do not want any forward community especially brahmins to get into admissions and their strategy is to raise the reservation to go beyond maximum limit and the general category is vey limited.
OBC, SC,ST is also enjoying similar reservation in andhra pradesh and karnataka without dravidian movement and these communities are showing no animosity towards brahmin community. In fact andhra brings more software professional than from tamilnadu. Narayana murthys, premjis bring laurals to india and not tamilnadu dravidian movement. Tamilnadu gains from what is achieved from some where else.
The just solution is to combine economic criteria along with castes and remove cremy layer among OBC’s. They are vested interest groups for pro-reservation and anti-brahmin mindset. OBC’s were not untouchables and they were n’t humiliated like SC and ST’s and they were respectful in society.
Also, make a policy that reservation should not exceed more than 33% in total and 2/3rd should be merit alone, where all so called castes can compete for jobs and educational opportunities.
Do not bring social cultural differences into business arena and India would become most backward country with internal bickerings and China would be developed nation soon.
mahesh says:i agree
AK says:I have studied at NIT Trichy, let me clarify following:
In my batch 50% of the students were from outside TN and another 50% from TN. Most of us who had come from other states were better in studies than the guys from TN, out of top 20 at least top 12 ranks were from students outside TN. As regards TN , Brahmins and OBCs used to do reasonably well. Most of the so called OBCs were rich, owned businesses or had families staying in Posh localities. It were the SCs who were not getting much, neither good ranks nor jobs in campus placement , 90% of the SCs were poor and OBCs of TN used to treat them with scorn.Brahmins used to tell me that they are too scared to talk as they are a disliked lot here. So they used to keep quite and majority of them belonged to lower middle or middle income group. They were low profile but did well in their studies and used to get decent jobs.None of the OBCs used to make it to good PG courses in IIMs, IISc or IITs. It were only brahmins or students from otherstates who used to make into such courses. So two things are clear : OBC merit in TN is relative to TN and not on national basis, they can’t compete with general category
Most of the OBCs are well off, they are just making use of the reservation policy to get into educational institutes like IIMs, IITs, AIIMs etc..
OBCs are not dalits, infact most of them oppress dalits (including in TN)
There should not be any OBC quota, for the time being SC and ST quota may be continued and with all sorts of quota economic criteria have to be factored in
When we elect inept politicians and criminals to the parliament, should we expect more ?
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i fully agree to u,the kind of behaviour done by mumbai police was extremely shocking.how cud they of taking such action against students who were protesting in peacefull manner.wat made them to take such actions,who has given such orders to them,as they can’t just do it by themself unless n until sm senior officials or sm political bodies dont tell them to do so.
n y there is no hungama on dis reservstion issue n lathicharge executed by police on innocent students by the opposition leadres.on silly matters they do so much of nautanki n hungama.wat happened to them now.r they sleeping,or they too feel that wat ever is happening if they will oppose,their vote bank will be affected,so these guys peacefully sleeping in thier house.i cum in obc category,but i dont feel n find any reason for this hike of seats 4 these categories atleast 4 professional courses.infact reservastion is not required at all at this level.
so i strongly oppose this,n i do support all those students who r tring hard to stop this act of goverment.